A Discussion On The Prevalence Of Nationalism, Racism, Misogyny & Extremism In The Vampire Community

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VOICES OF THE VAMPIRE COMMUNITY (VVC)
Global Vampire Community Discussion – March 14, 2018

(I.) Nationalism Steeped In White Supremacy, Misogyny & Other Extremist Ideologies Among Participants In The Vampire Community (VC) + Poll:

(a) As a community how do we identify individuals who embrace what the majority of society would consider to be toxic beliefs?
(b) What steps can or should we take to isolate or remove these individuals from participating in our space?
(c) At what point does the acceptance of the right to hold personal beliefs impinge upon our ability to provide support and guidance to those seeking our help or wishing to attend our events?
(d) Does passive tolerance or indifference potentially taint the charitable and philanthropic actions by groups and individuals in the VC?
(e) Does it serve to enable the ‘hidden’ or ‘silent’ spread of these beliefs?
(f) What steps, if any, should Voices of the Vampire Community (VVC), Dark Nations (DN), The Unity Project (Blood Nations), The Sanguinarium, Temple of the Vampire (TOV), Kemetic Order of Aset Ka, New Orleans Vampire Association, Vampire Court of Austin, South African Vampire Association, Temple House Sahjaza, House Kheperu, Iron Garden, Order of the Black Marble, Atlanta Vampire Alliance, the Vampire Courts in the United States or abroad, and all the other established Houses and Orders take to address this issue among their ranks or with those they influence?

Based on your experience and participation in the Vampire Community please answer the following questions. You may choose more than one response.

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See Also:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/satanic-vampire-neo-nazis-atomwaffen-division-siegeculture.38120/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/satanism-drama-is-tearing-apart-the-murderous-neo-nazi-group-atomwaffen

https://medium.com/@eggfordinner/nazi-satanist-cults-want-your-blood-2a89c1578a65

https://www.propublica.org/article/atomwaffen-division-inside-white-hate-group

https://www.scribd.com/document/69804685/Satanic-Articles-and-Essays-Lucie-Elizabeth-Lovato

 

May 2014 In Review

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Vampire Community News (VCN) – May 2014 In Review

Vic Vampire Gigolo Killing Was ‘Vengeance’
May 1, 2014
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/vic-vampire-gigolo-killing-was-vengeance-20140501-37jeu.html

Young Blood May Hold Key To Reversing Aging – New York Times
May 4, 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/05/science/young-blood-may-hold-key-to-reversing-aging.html

Wanted: Welsh Boffin Seeks Real-Life Vampires – Dr. Emyr Williams
May 11, 2014
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/dr-emyr-williams-seeks-real-life-7102762

The Dark Nations Yearly Report
May 12, 2014
http://www.facebook.com/notes/the-dark-nations/dark-nations-yearly-report/855344767814051

California Courts: Unconstitutional Trials, Satanic Rituals
May 15, 2014
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2014/05/15/california-courts-unconstitutional-trial

Conspiracy Of Angels – By Michelle Belanger – New Fiction Series – Titan Publishing 2015
May 15, 2014
http://talespeaker.wordpress.com/2014/05/14/new

Austin Vampire Ball 2014 Information
May 19, 2014
http://www.facebook.com/events/1490073904542399/

Romanian Historian Who Debunked Dracula Myth Radu Florescu Dies
May 19, 2014
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/romanian-historian-who-debunked-dracula-myth-radu-florescu-dies-n109316

The Bad Things Ball 2014 – Halloween Night, October 31, 2014 – New Orleans
Order Tickets Now & RSVP For Event
http://www.facebook.com/events/237212336478646

Top Academic Claims Britain Has “Underground Network” Of 15,000 Vampires
May 27, 2014
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/top-academic-claims-britain-underground-3612813

Finally, Vampires Are Getting Their Own Academic Study – VICE/Motherboard
May 30, 2014
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/finally-vampires-are-getting-their-own-academic-study

Girl, Two, Abducted And Beheaded (Blood Drinking Allegation)
May 31, 2014
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/05/31/Girl-two-abducted-and-beheaded-Witnesses-claim-to-have-seen-a-man-slash-at-toddlers-neck-and-drink-h/

Pitfalls, Mousetraps & Elders Of The Vampire Community

VictorMousetrapLately I’ve been asked ad nauseam for an opinion on the following topic so here you go…

The Vampire Community is a convoluted ball of hypocrisy that has devolved in many areas into a form of perverse entertainment — many playing their own angles to nurture disruptive goals and longstanding vendettas.  Any truth to be found is measured in shades of gray and who can convince what mercurial faction or personal friends to side with them while everyone involved conveniently ignore facts to support their own version of reality.  If one delves too deeply into the outcries of dissatisfaction they may find themselves lost in the minutia, manipulated like pawns and trapped by madness.

After more than a generation of existence we should consider the inescapable reality that we are a fractious, stubbornly independent and often egotistical lot who have embraced the label of ‘vampi(y)re’ as an extension of our personal identity.  If you are not happy within your own personal life you do not need to look solely towards the Vampire Community as the beacon of hope, means of an escape or a friend group who will be there to encourage your development.  We do not hold the master key that one needs to be successful — that begins with finding the inner strength to develop your own voice and take control of your life.

Before contemplating accomplishing anything of significance on a large scale we need to first work towards understanding why many have stepped into the shadows decrying ‘elders’ and ‘cookie-cutter groupthink’, establish defined goals that are realistic to achieve and make a good faith effort to educate the uninformed as to how the Vampire Community has developed during the last few decades.  This includes examining similar projects which either failed or faded from our chronically short-term memories.  Setting aside for a moment the notion of serving as an elder, council member, ambassador, representative of an embassy, et. al. one should ask themselves what have they individually done – not just talked about doing – to improve problems they have identified within their local or greater community.

Back channel lines of communication between groups and individuals already exist.  Choosing to use them and engage with others you either do not personally care for or trust is the true crux of the issue that needs to be remedied.  Mutual cooperation among all vampires, groups and organizations along with other grandiose ideas would do well to take a back seat to focusing on personal growth, education, research into our own identity and learning to initially support one another as individuals rather than as a collective horde bound by artificial hierarchies.

I would like to remind everyone that perhaps the greatest source of confusion when attempting to conceptualize or define what it means to be a ‘real vampi(y)re’ stems from a confluence of various diverse movements within the Vampire Community (or the overall subculture alongside mythos, folklore, philosophical adaptations from spiritual, cultural and fundamentally disparate groups) approaching the subject at differing points in time, direction and originating influence(s).  One’s self-identity with the loosely defined concept, condition, state of being, et. al. of ‘vampirism’ is entirely dependent on the individual and no more or less valid than the next person.

To frame this another way…

  • Some vampi(y)res have medical and/or mental conditions which they’ve yet to find a satisfactory answer for.
  • Some vampi(y)res have medical and/or mental conditions which they’re in denial over.
  • Some vampi(y)res incorporate magickal or ritual practices with a spiritual blend of ‘vampirism’.
  • Some vampi(y)res are left-hand path leaning ‘vampire’ spiritualists or esotericists.
  • Some vampi(y)res don’t believe ‘vampirism’ has anything to do with religion and/or spirituality.
  • Some vampi(y)res believe their soul is inhabited and/or are fallen angelic or demonic ‘vampires’.
  • Some vampi(y)res believe ‘vampirism’ to be an evolutionary advancement in certain humans.
  • Some vampi(y)res believe ‘vampirism’ is caused by a virus because they read certain websites.
  • Some vampi(y)res simply enjoy the ‘lifestyle’, wearing fangs, and dangling an ankh around their neck.
  • Some vampi(y)res really wish they could emulate fictional (perhaps even folkloric) ‘vampires’.
  • Some vampi(y)res felt a void in their life and have ‘attempted’ to fill it with ‘vampirism’ and the O/VC.
  • Some vampi(y)res have no clue who or what they are and don’t care either way – ‘vampire’ sounded good.
  • Some vampi(y)res have no desire to define their own identity because they never learned to think for themselves.
  • Some vampi(y)res are still searching for their own answers (physiological, medical, spiritual, or otherwise).
  • Some vampi(y)res are completely deluding themselves (regardless of whether ‘vampirism’ exists or not).
  • Some vampi(y)res really wish they could close their eyes and wake up somewhere else.
  • Some vampi(y)res won’t be here this time next year because they will no longer identify with ‘vampirism’.
  • Some vampi(y)res are just bat @&*# crazy.
  • Some vampi(y)res think ‘vampirism’ is a combination of ‘everything’ because they think this is an appealing idea.
  • Some vampi(y)res will think I didn’t cover some element of their own personal experience in any of the above.
  • Some vampi(y)res will be correct in this thinking.

I am personally indifferent to anyone and everyone who either ‘trusts/doesn’t trust’, ‘likes/doesn’t like’, ‘respects/doesn’t respect’, or ‘considers me an elder/doesn’t consider me an elder’ in the context of their professional interactions with me through the Vampire Community.  Furthermore, how long one has been participating in the community is completely irrelevant to any personal opinion or measure of respect I may hold when weighed against the merits of one’s contributions or actions.  I am far from perfect and will not pretend to hold anyone to a standard that would require or encourage that they ‘bow’ or ‘kiss a ring on my hand’.

While I personally consider the application of such doctrine disingenuous to the practical expectations of our, or any contemporary, ‘society’ I have not, and will not, intentionally dishonor those who believe in such formality or respect given by them to any existing elected or title bestowed vampi(y)re.  I embrace the individually and rich history of our community and thereby the right of free-thinking adults to form whatever institutions, guiding precepts, rituals or beliefs they wish to follow.  With this comes an acknowledgment of those who came before me, those who have come after me, and an objective evaluation of what ideas formed the basis of various segments of the community and which of these ideas can still be improved upon today.

In keeping with this view, I do not feel it is within my right nor ethically responsible to compile any list of individuals I would deem as ‘elder(s)’ and place this information in a publicly accessible group, forum, website or resource for newcomers and interested parties to reference.  It is my belief that the attempted creation of any singular authoritative ‘elder listing’ would never obtain universal or even widespread acceptance without the presumption of personal biases and individual allegiances.  I believe that opinions regarding the suitability of individuals to mentor and teach others rest in the hands of the seeker to discern; and that we as a community should provide the necessary tools for them to be able to independently make this evaluation through the lens of safety and abuse awareness.  I will continue to focus my efforts on the compilation of resources, strengthening communication infrastructure and placing those who seek answers in touch with responsible individuals from their local areas who are willing to lend a hand.

Attitudes of entitlement, deep-seated mistrust, intentional deceptions or duplicity, wanton ignorance and purposefully baiting others to engage in negative rhetoric are not improving any of our lives or friendships.  Such behavior is simply narcissistic and predatory vampires using their fellow vampires as prey.  Rather than investing energy into destabilizing the efforts of other individuals and groups, those who are sincere in their claims of wanting to help should use their talents and time towards assisting those who are in the most need of direction and support.

I do not believe the majority of problems some perceive as prevalent within the Vampire Community derive from a present lack of organization, communication or information availability.  No matter how all-encompassing or elegant a system that is designed, it is only as effective as the people involved and their willingness to continually invest time, effort and monies despite any setbacks they may encounter.  Any system, council or organization’s ability to garner participants is only as effective as the level of respect afforded to its creators and in turn that respect offered unconditionally back to the members themselves.

Pitfalls, Mousetraps & Elders Of The Vampire Community
By Merticus – January 15, 2014

November 2013 In Review

FightingDragonsIlluminatedManuscriptVampire Community News (VCN) – November 2013 In Review

A Romanian Scientist Claims To Have Developed Artificial Blood – Smithsonian Magazine
November 4, 2013
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2013/11/a-romanian-scientist-claims-to-have-developed-artificial-blood/

Vampires In Bloemfontein… South Africa – News24
November 4, 2013
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Vampires-in-Bloemfontein-20131104

A Single Vampire Is Mad, Thousands Are A Minority – By Hesperus Rising
November 4, 2013
http://praniphagite.tumblr.com/post/66052167488/a-single-vampire-is-mad-thousands-are-a-minority

The Spirit Of Vampirism – By Hesperus Rising
November 5, 2013
http://praniphagite.tumblr.com/post/66096035025/the-spirit-of-vampirism

Prologue – The Spark – By Samael Anathan
November 5, 2013
http://eveningjournals.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/prologue-the-spark/

The Vampyre Family: Passion, Envy & The Curse Of Byron – Andrew McConnell Stott
November 5, 2013
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/10418486/The-Vampyre-Family-Passion-Envy-and-the-Curse-of-Byron-by-Andrew-McConnell-Stott-review.html

Ask Mr. Scientist: Real-Life Vampires & Death Scares
November 6, 2013
http://host.madison.com/daily-cardinal/science/ask-mr-scientist-real-life-vampires-and-death-scares/article_9b99d930-4686-11e3-bc3f-0019bb2963f4.html?

Interview With A Vampire: The Vampire Court Of Austin – FOX 7 News – Austin, TX
November 6, 2013
http://multimedianewsroom.us/2013/10/30/vampire-court-of-austin-a-role-playing-community/

Patricia MacCormack Talks About Ahuman Theory, Importance Of Non-Speciecist Ways – U.C. Santa Barbara
November 6, 2013
http://dailynexus.com/2013-11-06/patricia-maccormack-talks-about-ahuman-theory-importance-of-non-speciecist-ways/

Paul Sanelle Murder Trial – Testimony On Real Vampires (Blood & Energy) In Washington County, Oregon
November 7, 2013
http://www.oregonlive.com/north-of-26/index.ssf/2013/11/paul_sanelle_murder_trial_defe_1.html

Case Of Man Who Claimed To Be Vampire Killer Creates Challenge For Court – Canada
November 8, 2013
http://www.canada.com/news/Case+claimed+vampire+killer+creates+challenge+court+lawyer/9144215/story.html

Daley Catherine & Logan South – Vampire Court Of Austin – KLBJ Dudley & Bob Morning Show – Austin, TX
November 8, 2013
http://podcast.klbjfm.com/show/dudley-bob#2013-11-08

You Can Still Be A Vampire – A Mirror Made Of Words Blog
November 8, 2013
http://mirrormadeofwords.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/you-can-still-be-a-vampire/

Lutherans, Vampires, And First Communion – By Dawn Duncan Harrell – Patheos
November 8, 2013
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/cultivare/2013/11/lutherans-vampires-and-first-communion/

Oregon Murder Trial Spurs Question On Vampires + Guilty Verdict
November 9, 2013
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20131109%2FNEWS%2F311090310%2F-1%2Frss01

Is Republican President Michael Sata A Vampire? – By Peter Adamu – Zambia Reports
November 9, 2013
http://zambiareports.com/2013/11/09/opinion-sata-lack-of-concern-bloodshed/

Chatting With Vampires – Back & Toward The Future – Stefan Resurrectus
November 9, 2013
http://realvampirenews.com/chatting-with-vampires-back-and-toward-the-future/

Why Teenagers Join Cults – By Bulelwa Dayimani – South Africa
November 11, 2013
http://www.destinyconnect.com/2013/11/11/why-teenagers-join-cults/

Lady Gaga Calls Perez Hilton “Fake” On Howard Stern, He Calls Her A “Real-Life Vampire” – US Magazine
November 12, 2013
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/lady-gaga-calls-perez-hilton-fake-on-howard-stern-he-calls-her-a-real-life-vampire-20131211

A Place Among The Dead – New Vampire Documentary Directed By Juliet Landau & Deverill Weekes
November 13, 2013
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3264686/anne-rice-featured-in-new-vamp-doc-a-place-among-the-dead/

Vampire Enthusiasts & Subculture In Chicago – WGN9 News – Chicago, IL
November 14, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkQxngac_M

‘Vampire’ Shot As Revenge, Victorian Court Hears – AAP
November 15, 2013
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/19842715/vampire-shot-as-revenge-vic-court-hears/

The Abode Of The Blood Kitten – Blood Cupping & Bloodplay Scene (NSFW)
November 15, 2013
http://blutkatzchen.blogspot.com/2013/11/blood-cupping-my-first-real-bloodplay.html

The Space Vampires – VampChix Presents Bite Club
November 15, 2013
http://vampchix.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-space-vampires.html

The Truth About Psychic Vampires – By M. ‘Niki’ Fears
November 15, 2013
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-truth-about-psychic-vampires

House Of The Dreaming Yearly Open Chat – Celebrate The Rousing Chimera
November 17, 2013
http://www.facebook.com/events/582972808430089/

The Modern Vampire Sub-Culture – Julia DarkRose
November 20, 2013
http://thedarkrosejournal.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/the-modern-vampire-sub-culture/

Dark Nations Is Looking For More Administrators
November 20, 2013
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Dark-Nations/218515861496948

2013 Public Transcript Meeting – Voices of the Vampire Community (VVC)
November 20, 2013
http://merticus.com/vampirenews/2013/11/26/voices-of-the-vampire-community-vvc-discussions-for-2013-on-the-vcovc

Vampire Community Reformation Questionnaire – The Responses
November 25, 2013
http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/projects/reformationsurvey.html

Annual Thanksgiving Feeding The Homeless & Hungry – New Orleans Vampire Association
November 28, 2013
http://www.neworleansvampireassociation.org/thanksgiving.html

Feeding A Psychic Vampire – By Circe Arcanum
November 29, 2013
http://circearcanum.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/feeding-a-psychic-vampire-by-circe-arcanum/

Pupil Craves For Blood, Stabs Colleague In Lagos
November 30, 2013
http://www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/pupil-craves-blood-stabs-colleague-lagos

Voices of the Vampire Community (VVC) – Discussions For 2013 On The VC/OVC

LivreDesPassagesd'OutreMer1490Voices of the Vampire Community (VVC)
Public Meeting – November 20, 2013

Transcript PDF:
http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting11.20.13.pdf

Attendees:

Abyah – Russian Vampire Community
Acrophobic Pixie – Black Swan Haven (BSH)
Belfazaar – House Of Mystic Echoes & New Orleans Vampire Association (NOVA)
DarkFess – Russian Vampire Community
Gabriel – House Lost Haven
Horus Sat – Italian League Of Real Vampires (ALIRV)
Imon – Les Vampires & Dark Nations Administrator
Heidica Northernlight – Norwegian Vampire Community
Isealdor – House Etherium & New Orleans Vampire Association (NOVA)
Merticus – Atlanta Vampire Alliance (AVA) & Suscitatio Enterprises, LLC
Octarine Valur – House Valur & South African Vampyre Alliance (SAVA)
Reija – Independent Representative
Jeanette – Nexus Noctis German Vampire Community
Scarlet Ravenwing – Blue Ridge Vampyre & Otherkin Alliance
Spurn – Danish Vampire Community
Vyrdolak – By Light Unseen

Discussion Agenda:

a. Examining The Prevailing Dogma Of The Vampire Community – A Three-Part Question: Has the vampire community become too rigidly dogmatic for dialogue? Various groups believe they each know ‘the truth’ or ‘what real vampires are all about’ and react to conflicting views with ridicule, sneering, dismissing contrary views, or instantly claiming that they are being criticized or even victimized.  If yes, why do you believe as a community we have become increasingly intolerant of diverse points of view?  Is it possible to allow for less rigid dogma and discussions while remaining respectful of each other’s beliefs or opinions?

b. Realistic Expectations Of Attempting To Protect The Vulnerable – A Four-Part Question: For many years we have debated whether, and how, to protect new or vulnerable participants of the vampire community from leaders or groups that are perceived (by some) to be unethical, abusive, or disseminating misinformation. Thus far, we have been unable to collectively agree on which leaders or groups are ‘bad’ and what to do about them.  Are we realistically able to protect others from their own naiveté, wishful thinking, or ardent stupidity?  When does trying to ‘police’ such a diverse and unfocused grouping of participants as the vampire community simply create more divisions and negativity?  Is there a more productive use of our time?  If so, what is it and how should we best arrive there?

c. Searching For Answers & Aging Out Of The Vampire Community – A Three-Part Question: Have you noticed a steady decline in individuals searching for guidance about real vampirism since the mid 2000s?  In essence, have organized vampire groups become the gatekeepers of the existing quality information on vampirism rather than pathfinders of new ideas and explorations into real vampirism?  Does anyone ever permanently ‘age out’ of the vampire community or do they merely step into the shadows while tending to personal matters or pursue their personal vampirism in private?

d. Our Evolving Relationship With The Media – A Four-Part Question: What, if any, changes have you noticed by those who are in the public eye as related to what the media is seeking from vampires they interview?  Has television media altered their desire for a particular style of dress, behavior, or backdrop when filming?  Is the media across various mediums beginning to allow review and revision of the footage or articles prior to airing or publication?  How has this changed, or not, in the past several years compared with a decade or more ago?

e. Critically Evaluating How We Appear To The Outside World: A Three-Part Question: Do you believe the vampire community is serious enough about how it appears to the outside world?  Many participants in the vampire community complain about documentaries, interviews and other depictions of real vampires that highlight the melodramatic and colorful participants of our community. However, many of these same individuals embellish their social media profile pages with lurid art, photos of themselves with fangs and bloody mouths, black capes and heavy make-up, and with other macabre or grim materials.  Is it possible for us to be horror-centric, embracing of the fantastical, or Goth theatrical ‘for fun or lifestyle’ and expect the media or the general public to be able to differentiate, understand, or ultimately accept us as harmless?  Is such a notion realistic, or even fair?

Voices of the Vampire Community (VVC) Public Meeting Transcripts:

April 27, 2008http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting04.27.08.pdf
August 9, 2008http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting08.09.08.pdf
December 6, 2008http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting12.06.08.pdf
April 25, 2009http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting04.25.09.pdf
August 30, 2009http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting08.30.09.pdf
December 20, 2009http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting12.20.09.pdf
June 16, 2010http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting06.16.10.pdf
March 22, 2011http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting03.22.11.pdf
March 25, 2012http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting03.25.12.pdf
September 23, 2012http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting09.23.12.pdf
November 20, 2013http://www.veritasvosliberabit.com/images/VVCPublicMeeting11.20.13.pdf